6-01-10 Where do you draw the line?

This week on the show I answer the question “where do you draw the line?”. This is often asked by nonvegans to justify their consumption of animal products, but it is also asked by vegans who genuinely want to avoid as much animal exploitation as possible.

I start by answer the question to nonvegans. Even though we may not know exactly where to draw the line in every situation, we should still try our best to avoid as much exploitation as possible. This same principle applies to all matters of ethics. As a general matter we agree that murdering other humans is morally wrong, however there are some areas that we may not agree on (e.g. killing in self defence). Even though we may not agree on these issues, we all agree that killing another person because you enjoy killing, is morally wrong.

Next I answer the question more towards fellow vegans. I cover areas such as animals killed in plant harvest, whether shellfish and insects have rights and whether we should avoid road that have animal products in them, life saving medications tested on animals etc.

I also read out this recipe for raw vegan chocolate pudding 

  • 3 avocados
  • 1 cup pure maple syrup
  • 1/2 cup plus 2 Tbsp. cocoa
  • 2 Tablespoons vanilla extract
  • 1/2 teaspoon cinnamon
  • 1/2 teaspoon sea salt
  • Up to 1 1/2 cups water to thin

1. Process all of the ingredients except the water in a food processor. Add water to thin to desired consistency.

2. Great served with sliced strawberries or raspberries.

Serves: 6


  • Serve with fresh strawberries, raspberries or blueberries
  • Freeze to make a chocolate gelato



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